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Question From Micky

Is it against the law to leave a message on a persons answering machine, at the home phone number that the cust gave you and you know from previous conversations they live there, that says they must contact you because you have assigned their account to a repo agent?

Answered By Michelle Dunn
Micky,

If you are the original creditor, it is not illegal for you to contact a customer regarding a past due payment. If you have placed the account with a 3rd party, such as a collection agency or a repo company, then you should not contact them and if they contact you, refer them to that 3rd party agency you have hired.

Sincerely,

Michelle Dunn

 

 
Question From Peter Carvalho

Dear Michelle: I am part of New Business Development at A New Horizon in Fort Lauderdale; a well established Credit Counseling company with over 14 years experience as a 501(c) (3) non-profit organization assisting individuals and families from all walks of life in regaining control of their finances. We do this by utilizing Financial Literacy training and a host of programs to counsel and educate individuals on the responsible use of credit along with a structured debt management plan to assist them in paying off their existing debt. We have been trying to promote to the Collection Community a softer, more solution oriented holistic approach to collections which has the added benefit of improving the reputation of the collection industry with the public – Besides improving their bottom lines. Through our research we’ve recognized that the industry trend is moving in this direction and a company like ours provides the very solution. This new initiative is designed for debtors who are in default and not already in a Credit Counseling Program. My attempts to reach out to Collection Agencies have been unsuccessful so far. Their corporate culture dictates that it is better to collect a percentage of what is due NOW rather than working with the debtors to establish repayment programs and ultimately collect near 100% of the amount owed over the long term. We’re not asking them to assign ownership of accounts – They become the creditor and nothing changes between the Collection Agency and their client Agreement. We just get the debt performing sooner versus later – or not at all. The concept works for virtually any industry; Hospitals, Banks, Credit Unions, and Collection Agencies. Our programs achieve two things – Creditors recover the money they’re owed in an organized manner and families are educated on managing their own finances in the future. It’s a win-win situation for everyone. Your thoughts on how I can get the Collection Communities attention?

Answered By Michelle Dunn
Peter,

I have always suggested to debtors that needed extra help with their finances to sign up with a non-profit organization such as this. For over 20 years during my collection calls with debtors I would tell them about local programs and also met with my local offices so I could have brochures and paperwork to send the debtor to make the transition easier for them. I always utilized a local non-profit credit organization and suggest other agency owners do the same.

If you would like to join the American Credit & Collections Association (free) you can always jump into conversations and suggest this option to the agency owners in my group. You can also join the forums and post about this service and how it can help the debtor and agency as well.

I would be happy to write a blog post about your services as well with a link to your website.

Otherwise, you may want to start by looking at industry trade association for collectors and suggesting and offering your services, remember to let them know how this will help them collect more money.

In these tough times this is a viable option for many. The associations I know of are the ACA International and my association, The American Credit & Collections Association LLC.

Sincerely,

Michelle Dunn

Question From Jeff In Michigan

Can you explain how the USA went in a few short decades from a place where a persons DEBT obligation was a serious contract to be honored...to where we are today. The message, sanctioned by our government is "Reward for Failure" and "Just Walk Away". Consume and do not pay, others will make good on your obligation. Pursuing a debt today is considered rude, un-American?

 
Answered By Michelle Dunn: 

Jeff,

The reason we are in this situation is because lenders decided to extend credit to consumers that were not credit worthy. Causing credit to no longer be a privilege that you had to work towards but something anyone could obtain any time, even with a bad or non-existent credit history.

In my opinion, pursuing a debt is not considered rude or un-American.

It is part of doing business. Businesses provide a service or product and deserve to be paid. Consumers must once again learn how to live within their means if they do not want to have debt problems.

Sincerely,

Michelle Dunn

Question From RH In The Midwest:

I run a small agency in the Midwest.  With the new bankruptcy laws, can one no longer pursue both joint applicants on a defaulted loan if one of the applicants files bankruptcy? I heard that there is a form that needs to be filed with the court first? Is this correct? Could you please clarify? Thank  you!

Answered By Michelle Dunn:
To answer your question on whether you can continue collections against a co-debtor when the other co-debtor is in bankruptcy and/or against guarantors when businesses are in bankruptcy and/or against businesses when personal guarantors are in bankruptcy. Here is an easy breakdown of how this works:"

Chapter 7 cases - all

Whether bankrupt co-debtor is an individual or a company you can go after co-debtor or guarantor for payment at any time, whether bankruptcy is pending or not.

Chapter 13 cases

Bankruptcy by either debtor stays the action against the co-debtor for the pendeing of the bankruptcy case. Once the case has been dismissed or discharged and all payments under the bankruptcy have been made we can proceed against the co-debtor (non-bankrupt individual) for the balance due on the account (remember with dismissal you can return to pursuit of the co-debtor that filed bankruptcy).

Chapter 11

Although it is best to wait in a chapter 11 case for the company to reorganize (allowing for all focus to be on the reorganization efforts) you can pursue the individual as personal guarantor and/or secondarily liable party during the pending of the bankruptcy. The company would have to get an injunction against you to stay the proceedings against the secondary party (and since this would most likely require your having to hire an attorney in that state, unless there is a question of statute of limitations whereby you could proceed immediately). After the Chapter 11 case has been terminated you can go after either the company (if it is still operating) or the individual.

Regards,

Michelle Dunn

The Nations authority on collecting money www.MichelleDunn.com www.Credit-and-Collections.com

 

Question From Andy Part 2:

Thank for your answer but I guess I didn't make myself clear. The question is if a collection attorney must dismiss the case and refile in the county the debtor moved to when they do want to pursue the case. Does federal law require this when a debtor moves to the next county over? I doubt it since only one client does it out of many. I think he is wasting time and money dismissing the case and refiling just because the debtor has move across a county line.

 
Answered By Michelle Dunn:
Andy,

If you have a judgment against the debtor you would need to have that judgment assigned or transferred to the state the debtor now resides in, in order to continue to try and collect or attach assets etc. If they are in the same state but a different county, you should not have to do this but check with an attorney or your states laws to make sure, many states have different laws so make sure to verify by calling your local courthouse.

Good luck!

Michelle Dunn

Question From Garry in Texas: 

Can you supply me with a few vendors that have prefigured templates that will allow me to become Red Flag compliant? I am a small collection agency in TEXAS being small it has to be reasonably priced.

 
Answered By Michelle Dunn: 
Garry,

If you do a search on yahoo or google, there are companies that do this for you. I checked for you and found some but they are expensive. I do have some posts on how to comply with the red flag rules on my blog, you can check them out at http://www.credit-and-collections.com/blog/?cat=69

I hope this helps!

Regards,

Michelle Dunn

The Nations authority on collecting money www.MichelleDunn.com www.Credit-and-Collections.com

 
Question From John: 

An overseas collection agency is in need of a merchant account. Who can you provide me with? Also need a portfolio of genuine collection data for payday loans.

 
Answered By Michelle Dunn: 
John,

For a merchant account for a collection agency try Modern Payments, or PDC4U, which is an Internet product that provides the Gateway for both the front-end interfaces and delivery for Credit Card and Automated Clearing House (ACH) transaction processing. If you contact them, let them know I sent you.

Good luck.

Regards,

Michelle Dunn

The Nations authority on collecting money www.MichelleDunn.com www.Credit-and-Collections.com

 
 
Question From Bill:

Are there any regulations for commercial collections? If so where would I find these?

 
Answered By Michelle Dunn
The FTC regulates debt collection, and the FDCPA only relates to 3rd party collectors collecting on consumer accounts. For commercial accounts check the state laws in the state you are in and the state the debtor you are collecting is in.

Sincerely,

Michelle Dunn

 
Question From Andy:
I do a lot of skip tracing for collection law firms when they try to serve a lawsuit on a debtor at a bad address. For one client only if we relocate in a different county they dismiss the case and file a new one in the new county. All of my other clients proceed with service of the case in the new county unless located in a different state. Is my one client that dismisses the cases correct or are they wasting a lot of money for filing fees?
 
Answered By Michelle Dunn
It is really up to the client. It also depends on how much is owed, how much in assets the debtor has available, and if the client feels it is worth it to continue to pursue.

Sincerely,

Michelle Dunn

 

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